Kurginyan: To change Ukraine we need to decide first where Russia will go

24.06.2023, Aleksandrovskoye.

To get a Ukraine that Russia needs, we should first decide what Russia wants for itself, the leader of the Essence of Time movement, political scientist and philosopher Sergey Kurginyan said on June 9 in the program Conversation with a Sage on the Zvezda radio station.

Answering a question by the host Anna Shafran, the political scientist noted that we can well “make up a Ukraine we need,” but we need certain tools to this end. “I do not mean the army,” he explained.

Sergey Kurginyan reminded that when West Ukraine became part of the USSR after the Great Patriotic War, Lavrentiy Beria had to combat the Bandera Nazis remaining on this territory for a long time. “Huge sacrifice was made for the sake of this combat,” the political scientist stressed.

Later, under Khrushchev, these Western-oriented Ukrainians began to return from prisons, which initiated the process of building this ‘anti-Russia,’ as the Russian president calls it. In fact, it has been built over centuries, it has a basis., According to Bertolt Brecht, ‘The womb he crawled from is still going strong,’ the philosopher explained.

In the entire Ukrainian territory is liberated, Russia will “face a population that has internalized this Banderite ideology over the decades and especially in the past ten years, so we will face irrepressible pro-Western sentiments, which, even if they have to keep quiet, will behave accordingly,” Sergey Kurginyan explained.

He noted that we will have to do something with these processes.

In order to decide what to do with Ukraine we should first decide what Russia wants itself, and in which direction it plans to move, the political scientist stressed.

If we want to become a pro-Western country again, we should make the territory that we are taking under our control – again, what kind of a control? – integrate into what we integrate into ourselves, the analyst explained.

If, in contrast, we declare that the anti-Western ‘track,’ from which you started our conversation, is over forever <…> then we should model certain processes there, too, that would be good for us in the context of our anti-Western policy,” Sergey Kurginyan explained.

Source: Rossa Primavera News Agency